I remember some amatuer players in orlando (julio-aka spiderman.. was 1) that used to use them alot and they usually came from mexico.. they were cheap around $100 new compared to $300 at the time for a spanish reed cesta, the plastic cesta was actually nylon based and was white in color, very stiff and they were more difficult to catch with and you lost alot of power using them. With cestas reaching $500 i wish i could get my hands on a few!!! Oh and by the way the nylon reeds hardly broke and lasted twice as long as a spanish cesta.