Craig, one thing I know about gamblers and gambling--whether at a horse track, dog track, jai alai fronton, harness track or full scale or partial casino gaming--is this: anyone who says "I always win," is a liar. Sure, I've hit some big things at jai alai or horse tracks, but the expenses far outweigh the wins. If it didn't, the venue would take a loss all the time. Some days I finish way up, and some days way down. Often it's a break even or a slight loss. Mostly, it's a loss. I admit it. Sure, pete or me or anyone might hit 5 to 6 tris a performance, but when you wager 90 a game, for 8 games, well, unless you catch 2 or 3 GOOD paying tris, you ended up losing.