My point is just on jai alai trifecta wagering. Horses, dogs, different story. Just the nature of the game in jai alai where certain combo's are not worth the all/all bet or the box bet. Using post 8 as an example I simply can knock off $10 on that all/all bet and get the same practical chance of winning. If it was post 6 to win I could probably knock off $15 easily off an 6/all/all bet. combos such as 6-5-7, etc. What I meant by lazy man bet it takes no energy to go up and say 8/all/all. Takes balls and time and effort to go up to a teller and say 32 different 8 to lead a tri combo's, figure out which ones to leave out, then maybe take that extra cash and throw in 10 or 15 more picks.. I hate to be the one behind you in line but its really the way to do it in jai alai.