ah yes, but what you also are so convienyently forgetting.that the 8 can also win on the second and third go round..and my way you have all the most likely to come in tri's going for you...my little bet system would love for the 8 to go perfecto...but does not really require it to...i still have the best chance to win if the 8 wins whenever..which i think is a much wiser bet. but what do i know...i haven't had a loseing week in over a year..